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Dating, the prospect of it is both daunting and exhilarating. 

What starts out as an adrenalin rush coupled with anxiety and the urge to momentarily throw yourself out of the nearest window to avoid going, just before he arrives (just me?), soon turns into a self-sabotaging string of prolonged encounters. Of course once over with, these encounters become the latest confirmation of an apparent failure...the romantic kind... the kind that when a distant relative or family friend asks a variation on " Where's your boyfriend?", to which you begrudgingly reply "I don't have one", despite the extent of your academic achievement, recent promotion or network of meaningful platonic relationships; you get THAT special look. The one that consists of both pity and disdain. A further reminder that in this society, there must be something wrong with you if you're a seemingly attractive, intelligent, motivated young woman without a boyfriend.

Apparently, the only way to define yourself, and for others to acknowledge your complete integration into society, is by being one half of a "whole". No matter how successful you become or how contented you feel as an individual, being a single woman means you have negative social credit. What also grates me is the way in which the comment "Where's your boyfriend?" is always phrased, In a way that implies it is not entirely your decision to be single. Instead, you haven't been chosen, you've failed to attract a man...this suggests for all intents and purposes that you pretty much just fail at life.

Now don’t get me wrong, I’m big on dating. I have vast experience with this concept. Now, I don't consider myself to be a girl who is a fan of "relationships". In fact, it would not be an exaggeration to say I have an inherent aversion to them. On the other hand, I choose not to engage in meaningless casual sex. Not to say that I give meaning to sex that isn't casual. This leads to the enviable position of being stuck somewhere in the middle, kind of like purgatory. Most of the ‘relationships’ I engage in, consist of a series of dates, which vary in number depending on the level of asshole I meet. Recently, after a number of failed attempts at trying to withstand the various ‘flavours’ of the week, I got to thinking what my type tends to be...and the results are as follows:

1. They love sport. I hate sport.

2. By their own admission they "Don't read books" (Borrowing your sisters copy of 'Twilight' doesn't count. Target audience=teenage girls). I love reading...in particular, material of substance. 

3. They have no dress sense whatsoever. If they play sport this will extend (if we're lucky) to a polo shirt and those awful nylon pants or jeans coupled with sneakers. I, by my own objective standards dress well, I make an effort.

4. They resemble the quintessential "jock" in most respects, including that of intellect (or lack of). I consider myself to possess an 'awareness' of global, political, religious and existential discourse.

5. They quote lines from Family Guy, Anchor Man, or any film involving the comedic stylings of Will Ferrell. For Christ's sake, you didn't write it...repeating the lines word for word does not grant you comedic license over the material. You douche.

6. They fail to comprehend the fact that I'm high strung and, even more so, I’m happy that way. If you tell me to "chill" one more time, you'll really start to fear the meaning of the words "high strung", while you’re ‘strung’ up ‘highly’ from a tall building. 

7. They become freaked out and agitated if I start to talk about a topic that bears no relation to sex, beer, sport or how laid back life should be. Excuse me? When most of the world is living in a dire state of poverty, global warming is becoming an increasingly foreboding issue and the oppression of women due to the very nature of religion should be at the forefront of conversation; you think I'm too serious? Snap, I think you're an idiot.

8. Apparently engaging with current events means I'm trying too hard to be 'smart'...I concede, veering outside the bounds of Sky sport and MTV is quite an effort. Sorry, I meant Alt TV for you quirky guys out there. 

So I know you're probably thinking, why do I go for these guys? And the answer is: I believe a man should be three things in life; Handsome, Ruthless and Stupid.

Comments

I love this article...there

I love this article...there is this notion in society that women are somewhat "defective" if they are still single after perhaps age 25. Oh but men can be single until the age of....hmmm...mid to late 30's and can biologically father well into their 60's and 70's...while us women have a drastically reduced ability to bear children after age 35...And if Viagra is so important to the healthy sexuality of men, then where is women's Viagra?...uggghhh so unfair...lol

I can appreciate where

I can appreciate where you're coming from, it feels great to climb up on that high horse, and maybe that's all you want from a relationship, a feeling of superiority. It's nice to need and to have those needs met though (and I mean more than sexually).

Men and women are both complex beings, ascribing each other any less does us both a dishonour. I don't know what drives you or what your story may be, but try and just observe rather than judge the next time you're with someone.

I'm writing this mostly as advice to myself, thanks for putting words to an aspect of myself that I don't enjoy.

Keep writing, I think you guys are still only looking at a bit of the picture (so am I) but you're describing it well. Oh and I say you guys because to me the phrase "you girls" always sounded patronising.

Well of course that 500 odd

Well of course that 500 odd word post was only looking at a "bit" of the picture, was hardly intended to be a thesis on the multidimensional nature of relationships was it? Furthermore, I don't believe its "nice to need" and its not a behaviour that I exhibit in the context of 'relationships' whatsoever. You might like to take into account this post was based around observation, with the added element that it is intended to entertain to some degree; hence the heightened 'superior' tone the piece has. Complex beings; yes, and as such it seems a little naive to think that this is representative of our total dating experiences. It's not. Appreciate your comments, though maybe not the place for a cathartic outpouring?... "I'm writing this mostly as advice to myself"

Cheers

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Lol Well I could have

Lol

Well I could have attempted to attack you but I realised half way through that my venom was just feeding off your venom.

I chose to couch it in terms of self analysis rather than analysis of you because my thoughts on your attitude are less than flattering.

And to the "post was based around observation", that's the rub isn't it, your observations, your colouration on events etc etc.

I object to calling my interpretation of your post naive, especially given that one of your statements you used were "I got to thinking what my type tends to be", and in general the whole tone of the writing was "embittered-world-weary" type, i.e. you're going through the same situation over and over.

But hey, what the fuck do I know, I only historied your post to amuse myself between reading computer game forums and jerking off. Oh what complex creatures are we.

1. It is quite interesting

1. It is quite interesting to us that you “chose to couch it in terms of self analysis”……so you went to a blog -that was obviously written in the light hearted manner of poking fun at experienced interactions when dating; written by two people you have never met- as a means to do an in depth self analysis 'observing' parts of your psyche you have distaste for?
Hmmmmmmmmmm.
Not really a good idea.
I didn’t see ‘none of the above’ on the payroll. So I’m guessing it wasn’t that you wanted to post your opinion of yourself for the world to see.

2. "post was based around observation". Yeap. It sure was. And I have a secret for you, EVERY opinion, analysis, rant whatever is based on observation. “I think you guys are still only looking at a bit of the picture” yes we sure are. We are only looking a bit of the picture because we are unable to look at the whole thing, as we are never separate from our own biased experiences, they have become a part of who we are. As have yours. We do not pretend to have a greater knowledge than that of what we know. Everyone views life through rose tinted glasses, ones that we can never take off (it’s not like you can experience life from another viewpoint is it?) So when you suggest that we look at it from a more universal, objective standpoint, it falls a little flat. We're not pretending to have an omniscient perspective here, like you appear to do in your own ‘analysis’.

3. When you accuse us of being ‘embittered-world-weary’. You say it like it’s a bad thing. OF COURSE we are. It is called living in the real world, I know computer game forums can’t really leave you jaded (or can they?), but dating, especially dating guys, sure can. And if you don’t like “embittered-world-weary” women, then well maybe your sex should stop being assholes. Wait scratch that, maybe you hang out in forums because you know, deep down interacting with other people can often lead to one becoming ‘world weary’.

4. I like the way you try and sound like the bigger person by saying that you “could try and attack us” but will not. But then you go and do it anyway. Nice one douche. And I think you lost the higher ground when you started an in-depth analysis on two people you have never met. But thank you so much for the compliment; That this post has taken such high priority, that it comes before your daily jack off. Oh wait. It’s over now, guess you’ll be heading to the little boys room then.

1. The nature of the

1. The nature of the internet is that it is very easy to get from place to place. Even sometimes to end up in places you didn't set out to be. (I followed a random link to your post and replied on the spot, don't try and place more intent on me than I came in with).

2. I don't pretend to an objective view point, I just try and separate myself from my subjective view once in a while.

3. Of course embittered-world-weary is a bad thing, how can it be a good thing to begin every interaction with someone else expecting the worst? It's not fun unless you're a masochist, and ignoring exageration and jest your writing gives the appearance of someone who enjoys placing themselves in painful or shitty situations.

4. Man alive you took that troll and ran with it didn't you.

My observations are hardly in depth, I'm well aware of the fact that your post was somewhat to largely in jest, you should be aware of the fact that I'm replying to it to get an argument.

Your fundamental points:
You choose to go out with retards.
You like going out with retards because they have some qualities which endear them to you.
You like to complain about going out with said retards.

My fundamental points:
You choose these fuckwits, stop complaining about them. (Yes I know, if I don't like it I don't have to read it, or reply to it or whatever, you're dodging the point if you reply along those lines).

Please let me know if you disagree with the summation of our respective POV's so far.

And disagree I do. Ahh but

And disagree I do.
Ahh but that is point. You followed a random link, to a random blog and then decided to do an in depth analysis about the writers, pointing out faults you think we have, all with 500 words or so of a conscious stream of thought that we wrote, first and foremost, to make us laugh.
Of course it is obvious you wanted an argument. And why wouldn’t you. I’m sure internet forums on games get mighty lonely.

Now for your ‘fundamental points’:
Although I am not the one that initially wrote on these ‘types’ of guys, I can explain it quite simply to you.
This was an exercise in figuring why we choose the kind of guys we do. We felt that it is common for people, especially women, to pick partners that in general, have no qualities that should denote the attraction in which they seem to inspire.
If you pay attention, there is actually no ’woe is me’ aspect to the piece at all. It is a mere contemplation on the fact that the writer seems to go for this, as with many aspects in life, the writer acknowledges it as their own undoing, but is at least able to poke fun at them selves with revealing just how ’retarded’ their type is.

Ah yes, we humans ARE indeed complex beings.

So if you find time between jacking off and meaningful interactions on forums, I would be riveted to know what your thoughts are.

Ok As I said attacking me

Ok

As I said attacking me along the lines I've left open is always going to be fruitless, you don't know enough about me to hit any marks.

I'm sitting here typing this with a beautiful girl I like very much reading (her book) in the bed to my side, I would hardly say I'm lonely. Masturbation is something every man and probably most women do, look at your fathers, yep they wank, your brothers, them too, your grandad, yep he had a go. So you might as well drop that tangent.

You'd be surprised at the level of interaction you can enjoy on a forum, but of course your minds don't seem wired to enoy that sort of thing.

My thoughts are, of course it's common to be attracted to people that lack qualities you would normally be attracted to. It's called lust. You grasp this obviously, so why complain about things going pear shaped all the time? As if the fault rests with the guy for lacking the qualities you desire, when surely in the back of your mind you're well aware when you get started with him that it's not going to work out.

Well then if these

Well then if these ‘attacks’ are fruitless why do you seem to have the compulsion to explain yourself?
It is quite amusing that you feel the need to establish, that yes, you CAN get laid and oh great she’s a looker, and oh gosh SHE’S reading HER book?….crikey she MUST be a smart one too!
What do you want? A gold star? Yay! go you, you have a girl in your bed!
You left yourself open for digs and you got them cowboy.

And WHAT THE SHIT is up with saying how we don’t know you enough to hit any marks in one breath, then the other making major judgment calls on us?
As for your last paragraph. For God’s sake, there was no complaining about it!!! She questioned herself and her taste in basically the same way you are questioning it. She knows all the rules of lust and attraction and yet still finds herself falling for these guys. So she wrote about it, to not only make light of the situation but to write it down as a therapeutic measure. Further, as there are a lot of females out there that seem to have the problem of going for Mr. Wrong, we thought many could relate.
THE END.

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Oh and on a little sub

Oh and on a little sub point, my words were "could have chosen to attack you" in reference to my original post. I don't believe the fact that I chose to attack you (in the most veiled of ways), contradicts this statement in any fashion?

Oh and on a little sub

Oh and on a little sub point...
I’m sure most people do masturbate, what I’m not so sure of is that they like to do it by writing their egotistical opinions in the comment boxes at the end of blogs. Because that’s pretty much what you’ve been doing. But hey, what the fuck do I know.

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WHAT THE SHIT is up, is you

WHAT THE SHIT is up, is you feeling the need to dispense with your sarcastic jibes at every little phrase that I leave in my reply. As if I'm not considering the wording of these replies and you think you've actually got something about me that I spontaneously let fall. Run with it if you like though, I guess it makes you look witty and spontaneous or something.

As to the rest of the post. To me it sure as shit reads like a complaint masked in "questioning herself".

Much like I masked my counter-complaint in analysing myself. Hmmmm full circle, well I'll concede my original reply was full of fucking lame. But I stand by the last paragraph of my previous post. "then well maybe your sex should stop being assholes" sure as shit sounds like you're ready to have a bitch about men to me. Another gem was "depending on the level of asshole I meet".

Finally as to whether I'm justified in posting and critiquing you, if it's on the fucking internet, someone, somewhere is going to rip it up. This time it's me.

Oh dear, you really do have

Oh dear, you really do have your panties in a twist don’t you?
I’m in no way presuming you are writing in the heat of passion, the way you word yourself and the jargon you supply us with most definitely suggests thought has gone into what you say.
I am being sarcastic with you because some (and when I say some I mean all)
of what you have been saying has come across as pompous and self righteous, so my sarcasm is merely a means of exposing that pompousness.
Yes this is going around in circles because (as cute as it is) you keep accusing me/us of saying one thing, then in your next sentence you practically say what you are accusing us of saying.
I think this argument has exhausted itself, but feel free to comment on our next blogs. (I will personally look forward to it). Hopefully you will present a critique that is worth my deep contemplation and not just my sarcasm.
As for you ripping up this piece……uh, I hate to tell you, but you failed. All that really happened is you gave an analysis that we chewed up and spat out.

You know those words were

You know those words were the exact same words I was gonna start my post with. Well if you're the winner then you're the winner, it's a little hollow when you declare it yourself though isn't it?

I believe that when you

I believe that when you can't even put your real name to your opinion/critique it deserves to be null and void. As such, a hollow victory it is not.

oh and the capitals were

oh and the capitals were copied and pasted out of your post if that's what gave you the impression I was irritated.......

dunno why i kept reading

dunno why i kept reading 'none of the above' comments but if you have a lovely woman by your side, then try talking with her about her book. trying to spark arguments with someone on a blog seems to me a waste of time. obviously the blog writers were talking about something (that many of us women experience)in jest....for a bit of a laugh. thanx ladies (or 'you girls' lol), keep doing it,life is much more enjoyable with a sense of humour. this is my only comment.

Nice blog ladies. Better

Nice blog ladies. Better than readers digest.

I enjoyed this post and the

I enjoyed this post and the fact that it brought out such 'interesting' reactions only proves it's a good read.

Having said that though, I think you two are a match made in heaven... ;)

Nice article you guys. I do

Nice article you guys. I do feel like I may need to throw my two cents your way, a word to the wise shall we say. The fact you purport to have an 'objective' dress sense is neither here nor there as it is a nothing statement. I have seen the way you dress and however 'rad' you may think it is I'm afraid fashion is something that depends on many factors that unfortunately lack objectivity.

As for quoting Anchorman these men are not pretending that they made up the jokes, you misinterpret, they are of course trying to form a bond with someone who has shared the same enjoyable experience. Not something to be 'hated' on. Another gripe, for want of a better word, is your use of the word 'douche'... is this not something a acne ridden tenth grader would say to their smelly friends behind the bike sheds with a blunt in their hand??

Using the word discourse A LOT of times does not indeed make you seem any more educated than you are or shorten the number of years it has taken you to get your BA (or whatever it is people like you do).

After much criticism (constructive I hope), I have to tell you that I like your style and it is a well thought out piece. Big ups young scholars. I have not the read the other comments so do look deep into your oh so shallow hearts and forgive me.

- Yours sincerely,

The biggest of all dogs.

This is what I don’t get.

This is what I don’t get. Why say you like it, then proceed to layout why you don’t actually like it. Seems nothing more than a shallow and pathetic attempt to appear civil. If you don’t agree or like what we have written, then just say so. Adding one line at the beginning and end of your little high and mighty ‘speech’ does not entail positive criticism.

As for the Anchorman quotes…. Duh, we know why guys pull out these gems. Usually it’s when the conversation hit’s a lull, and they have nothing better to converse on. And yes, little old shallow us can even see deep enough into this behavior to realise it is a bonding technique. But guess what? It is a LAME ASS bonding technique. It’s like, why don’t we just sit around slack jawed watching Police 10/7 in hopes of seeing relatives on T.V. IT MAKES YOU LOOK STUPID.
The only funny quote I want to be hearing is when Stewie punched Will Ferrell for not being funny.

‘Discourse’ is a good word. So I use it. FURTHERMORE, I, and when I say ‘I’ ,I really mean ‘we‘, don’t give a shit if you have a problem with the words we like to use. This also, and quite obviously, goes for douche. ‘Douche’ is one of the best words to escape France this turn of the century. I’m sorry that YOUR pimply face isn’t accustomed to such great words, but that’s really not our problem.

Furthermore, you can step down from your pedestal. The use of 'objective' in regard to fashion, was intended to be taken sarcastically. We are well aware of the subjectivity that is rife in the fashion world. Both of us have more than a B.A. although as you would have guessed, we are very pro B.A, as it teaches you how to think for yourself. And before you go calling people shallow maybe you should find something to back that up with. Between us we have degrees in a number of disciplines including Philosophy, which is quite the opposite of shallow. However, I’m pretty sure I could stand in a puddle of you and not get my ankles wet.

Lastly, the fact that you don’t seem to have the balls to say who are does not conger up images of a ‘top dog’. ………more along the lines of an annoying Chihuahua nipping at my feet.

There's something easily

There's something easily dislikeable about the opinionated, upper-middle class, female B.A student: Fashionistas in "chic" op-shop dresses (with a sprinkle of whatever's hot right now because you're worth it right? Look out WORLD here I come). Philosophy majors who enjoy a stimulating read. Have you read Doystoyevsky? I hear he's really good. Photos in toilet cubicles before a night out on the town (o hai Haeme o/), humorous quote exchanges are lame amirite?. Pseudo-intellectual conversations in cafes; "terrible state of affairs the world is in", "quite". From the MAN side of the fence (capitalised for extra grunt) you ladies look pretty stupid too.

Two final points, because I'm in the mood for a rip roaring argument, where the fuck do you find a "handsome, ruthless and stupid" man who wears sneans (see characteristic numbered 3)? I just struggle to even comprehend it. Seriously, what part of town do you go to? I'm going to take an expedition and we can marvel at the localised paradox that can produce such a being.

Also you need to stop hanging out at your parents house, it's not the rest of the worlds fault (the portion who happened to be lured here by facebook), that your relatives are desperate to see their budding young John Stuart Mill (yes I googled "leading suffragette figures") drop a tot to carry on the family fortune before she goes completely off the rails and authors another feminist tome about the glass ceiling.

Manfully awaiting your reply.
Alex
P.S. Some parts of this comment may have been said in jest, you will not know which ones until you attempt to deconstruct them and I reply "it was a joke you humourless cow" and then you'll feel silly.

Ooo, contraire mon

Ooo, contraire mon frere.

You seem like you have had a lot of fun pigeon holing us. That’s great. But you should get all the facts before you do. For instance, I am not an upper middle class, ‘mummy and daddy pay for everything’ girl. I will not go into detail because frankly it is none of your business, but I come from very little money and everything I have, I’ve gotten myself. On the flipside, those of us who do come from what can vaguely be described as "upper middle class" backgrounds, are not reliant on this to form some sort of identity. Since when did social standing dictate the expression of personality and opinion? You seem to suggest that the female B.A student should be devoid of opinion, in an effort to appease the weak minded males that she may come across in due course perhaps. Long gone are the days when women should be seen and not heard. Suck it up darling.

I have no idea who you are and am not going to pretend I do (presumption makes for fools, you being the latest example). From what I do see however, I could easily paint a very colorful picture of a little boy, whom upon coming of age, decided to join a band. JUST like every other indie scenester in the wider Auckland area...Christ you can't throw a stick without hitting one of them. So while we’re apparently buying the latest accessories (because we’re worth it) and sitting in cafes talking about how great we are (because its true) and flipping back our blonde hair and talking about boys--just like every other upper middle class white girl- you’re strumming your bass, (or fiddling with whatever instrument it is you play-no pun intended) in some flat, talking about ‘your music’. JUST like every other young, indie guy with something to say...something that more often than not, is grounded in little more than rebellious acts of boredom, or an effort to stroke their own ego. I hear Devonport's great for that. You're likely to find a little indie girl there, one that will bask in your self confessed musical genius. Or maybe encourage your self-indulgent whims. Either way, you'll have a fan. And isn't that all you guys really want? Or are we being too stereotypical here? THINK NOT.

And here is the thing you don’t’ seem to get : we are aware of this stereotype people have of us, based upon outwards appearances. It flashes with bright neon lights every time some idiot like you makes a comment. We take the piss out of this stereotype. Hell, it’s even why we started this blog. So maybe you should have considered that some of what we say is highly satirical, before you come off looking silly……….oh wait, you already do. Oh well better luck next time. And the only thing this whole little war over words you have started has achieved, is make apparent just how much you buy into stereotypes and are quick to slot things into categories. Hey, what can you expect from a young, seemingly narrow minded caucasian male in a band?-how 'terribly common'.
 
Ps- you really don’t seem to get this - YOU CANT MAKE US FEEL SILLY, BECAUSE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY MEANS SHIT TO US.

Take care though, maybe you could write a song about it.
Anoushka and Robecca (excuse the lack of a consistent "I" or "We")

Wow, I can feel my temples

Wow, I can feel my temples pulsing it's as if my head is going to explode from sheer irony overload. I'm sorry ladies but whereas you can fight fire with fire, you can't fight fire with fire with fire. To put that more clearly you look foolish when you're all butthurt about being sterotyped after making a sterotypical man whine post and then in turn attempt to sterotype me.

From reading your replies to some of the other misfortunates above me, you agree that couching an argument in "we could so somesuch" and then doing it doesn't carry much moral weight. If you're gonna do something, do it well, which is really the gist of my objection to your terrible "satire" piece.

On a side note, fiddling with whatever instrument you play would probably be a good pun if I played the violin. I don't, so it's horrible, learn to pun.

The previous sentences brought to you by Alex's open mouthed horror at vapid stupidity and dislike of people who think it's cool, funny or useful to write "no pun intended". If you didn't intend a pun don't imply that there was a pun there so we can all marvel at just how clever you are.

I'm addressing your points as the overwhelming stupidity of each leaps out of the page in turn.

Social standing may not dictate the expression of opinion but I'd be willing to bet you can't argue with a straight face that it doesn't influence the formation of it.

As far as what female B.A students should or shouldn't be, I suggest nothing of the sort. You well educated philosophy students should know that that's called doing the strawman. Also I reckon you'll find it was children that should've been seen and not heard, women were supposed to be in the kitchen, washing clothes, ready to fellate their husband at a moments notice.

Finally the crowning jewel in ill-considered statements. If what I have to say means so little why did you get together to write a joint reply and send me a facebook message expressing your oh so thinly veiled displeasure at my post.

mmmmmmmmmm
Alex

Argh, for god’s sake. We

Argh, for god’s sake. We made you into a stereotype to show you how ridiculous your stereotyping of us was. Jesus. Why don’t you calm the fuck down. It really makes me wonder when guys you barely/don’t know dedicate so much time to something we wrote about something entirely frivolous. As if they have a personal vendetta to bring us down to size, pointing out our apparent stupidity at every possible juncture. Don’t you have better things to do than belittle us? Perhaps the dedication and passion you have put into this, could be put to better use(cough*Haeme*cough) or something else.

We wrote the thing one afternoon simply because it made us laugh. Take it with a grain of salt. If you don’t like it then fine, please yourself. Oh and by the way, I’m sorry, I didn’t realise you were the authority on every generalisation that has ever been made about women. For your information, it was women AND children should be seen and not heard.

And your open mouthed horror at the stupidity and dislike of said people who think its cool, funny or useful to draw attention to their apparent amateur punning, is surpassed by our opened mouthed horror at those individuals who refer to themselves in the third person. God complex anyone? There is no greater crime in which to implicate yourself as a complete tosser. Nicely done.

I would have thought it rather obvious that we like to write and argue?...Take down the over-zealous amateurs who try to oppose us in the process.

It's interesting that you

It's interesting that you say you sterotyped me to show how ridiculous sterotyping is. Which is exactly what I was doing with my original reply to your post. Implied sterotypes (all men are assholes, implied by your statement "depending on the level of asshole I meet") are just as lame as obvious ones. The fact that you guys missed this is fucking hilarious, "masters of satire".

Trust me, the limit of passion I have put into this is incredularity at how poorly the pair of you argue given your extensive and hard won educations. I do this for the lulz. You two make an entertaining diversion from doing study or anything that actually requires effort.

Anyways, peace be upon the pair of your lovely golden heads (god complex). Over-zealous amateurs...cute.

Looking at it from my frame

Looking at it from my frame it seems that you cannot stand to be inferior to anyone. Whether you have to google the answer and then pose it in humourous derision or you manage to remember something you once read or heard and regurgitate it all on your own is irrelevant; You are unqualified to make these assaults. The article is humorous and entertaining and not as judgemental as you believe. It is of some annoyance that simple things have to be pointed out to you and this is of course a feeling shared by the authors of the script. In your chosen field of music and manhood there have been drastic cuts in funding. In the narrowing market of increasing skill and competition you have developed an ego and delusion in order to cope. It was the childish naievity that preceded this shift that made your band so joyously amusing to watch initially, a time when parents were present for performances. "Physics makes us all it's bitches" though, and you too will have to adjust to the march of time.
It is especially unsuitable that you hold such anger for intelligent women. They are not here specifically to lift you from your excrement though they may choose to do so if they wish. Degrees in Arts are of great value, a value that extends far beyond the years of active participation in them and realises itself fully in those later years so don't be foolish and big headed. If you were truly as great a man as you believe you would treat these women who have completed study with love, yet you are still so young and angry and unable to adjust to an increasingly feminine age. Maybe you could enlighten me as to the reasons for your petulance?

The thing is, if you undertook a serious and dedicated self analysis and actually read what you had posted, an effect similar to a giant phsychadelic wave would crash over you, paranoia setting in as the realisation dawned that without growth you would drown in its seething eternal oceans. That same water, young douchbag, comes ankle deep on either of these girls. But by all means, come on in, the waters warm and shark filled.

Greetings Edward Nice

Greetings Edward

Nice attempt to drag my band into this as if it has any relevance, my opinions, delusions and ego were there long before I had the good fortune to make music with my friends and they will probably be there long afterward. Maybe we'll get somewhere with our music probably we won't, either way I'll keep doing it until it's not fun anymore.

I have nothing against intelligent women, I don't enjoy oneupsmanship masquerading as feminism, at least I'm honest in my desire to win arguments.

As for the rest of your hurfblurf....yawn. Why won't the "no longer receive updates from this blog" link work? There's nothing interesting on this page anymore.

Alex

Look Alex, what I am about

Look Alex, what I am about to say isn’t an attempt to be mean or cruel o you. Truthfully, we’ve been trying to ignore you because we don’t want to say this, but you just won’t seem to well, fuck off, so here goes.

What you’ve been saying is somewhat humorous and structured well. However, you don’t know either of us and the assumptions you spit our way, on an acidic tongue, are so wrong, that we laughed along with you. Obviously the reason why your band was bought into the mix was due to the fact that you reside in one of such nature; meanings that assumptions can be made of you that possibly aren’t true. (Though I’m beginning to think otherwise). JUST like the assumptions you made of us (I can only presume, seeing as you’ve had no other contact) on the way we look. I cannot see how you do not understand that, and because neither of us have time to argue with you over something you don’t get seem to get, we just stopped. Frankly, because we just don’t care.

With frivolous statements like ‘maybe your sex should stop being assholes’ was to reiterate, said in jest. We write these for our own and friend’s amusement.
You come in gun slinging, ready to go straight for the jugular; not even knowing what way is up, with arguments that truthfully have nothing to do with either of us.

Further, your comment on the drag queen piece was shocking, saying you liked it, as if your opinion matters. What the fuck? I cannot BELIEVE you would have the audacity to think we care what you think.

Now here’s the thing you have forced me to say, (well write) that you will not like:

Can you stop taking out the fact that Haeme didn’t want to be with you on everyone she knows. That fact that you even found this blog, through stalking her page or something is creepy in itself. You pretty much described her, in what you were throwing our way, which shows two very apparent things about you. Firstly, if you hate that type of person so much, then why did you spend an entire summer throwing yourself at said type? Secondly, you’re projecting your bitterness onto us. If you actually knew me, you would know that I didn’t go to the same private school, don’t come from the same money and have been paying my own way since I was 15. But you don’t. And I don’t care that you don’t. But please stop taking out your bitterness on us. It’s actually painful to watch. It’s no one’s fault but your own that you couldn’t get my friend, I know it sucks because she is wonderful, but get over it!

I must say though, your last comment was hilarious! At least you’re open about trying to win arguments?? you've got to be kidding? You haven’t managed to get one thing right, and as stated before, you are so painfully, obviously, taking out your rejection on her friends. Jesus, show some self respect. Or restraint. Or something. Sure, there are probably many ways to win this argument, but acting in the exact way, and having the same responses we are not only expecting but making fun of, isn’t one of them.

I’m sure you’ll come back with some more verbal masturbation you’ve been happily exposing us too, but please do everyone a favour and just leave it. This will be our last response to you (we don’t seem to have the time to reply every 20minutes like yourself) so go find something better to do with your time. Pining maybe.

I feel I have to reply to

I feel I have to reply to this as unfortunately "he who laughs last laughs loudest" has never been truer than on the internet.

Edward and other avid readers. I call your attention to the two women standing here ankle deep in the waters of maturity. That water seems to be rising awfully quickly, I really hope you can swim as well as I can.

On point, I drew no conclusions about your characters from your appearances, I merely stereotyped you based on them to prove the point that your article was lame. Any and all real conclusions I have drawn about you have been from the quality of your writing which I hope for your sakes doesn't accurately reflect your personalities because it's hardly flattering.

Oh and to finally put the kibosh to your "we write these things in jest" arguments. You're not funny, objectively speaking. The entire, at least passably intelligent, world finds your comedic stylings stayed and boring. Aliens analysing the humour of our planet find your stylings stayed and boring. If god exists he thinks your jokes are fucking terrible, and there could be no more objective a being than God right. The only people that think you're funny are sycophants like our friend Edward and drooling idiots.

You're right about one thing though, that little gem has effectively ended this argument. CC the debate to your friend, I'm sure she'll laugh as hard as I am.

Goodbye

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