Forget the Nigerian scamsters; we've got Brian

Bishop Brian Tamaki Is the MAN...
Keep going hard Bishop you are doing the right.

What's the fascination of Destiny to bloggers and the media? Tamaki's salary might seem high, but review the books of most denominations, and Church Ministers as a whole are on a good ticket. Study Leave, Training paid for, Susidised housing, Car allowances that way exceed the recomendations of IRD, and very stong Superannuation packages are the norm for this special elite. Even the issue of tithing is not new, most churches encourage large contributions from members, and churches get most of the repairs done at zero cost by members (imagine the lost GST on that), add the income for land holding of established churches, and it's always been a money making system. So it's more than the money.

Is it the size of destiny? They are certainly a large church, way bigger than most. Do comentators fear such a large powerfull body? Maybe they should. They certainly can have influence, but only in a very small area, so why care?

Is it secrecy? Brian is not in hiding, he is very up front about what he does, and he fronts up to answer questions. You don't have to like his opinions, and no makes you become a member, but there is no deceit, its all up front and open. More open than most. Hardly typical cult stuff.

Is it the social programmes the church runs? Can't be they manage to consistanly overlook that part of the church.

Is it the politcs? They are definately right leaning, but hardly far right. politically they seem to be all over he place in policy. Strike that too.

Is it tall poppy syndrome? Destiny is doing well, so this could be, but they have nothing in size compares to The warehouse, or Hubbards, Or sanitarium. But they are not THAT sucessful, even if everyone seems to want them to fail. Envy alone doesn't generate this much interst.

Is it just because they are different? As Kiwi's we bleat on about how we love to b multicultural, we love difference. However I have noticed a pattern, We love difference as long as they are not white middle class conservative Christians. We preach ltolerance, but only to those who think like us. I am starting to think that we can tolerate any difference, as long as it's not too different, Destiny is different, and we feel uncomfortable, They are not like us.

I have no ties to destiny, and don't want any, but I still can't understand why we hate, with such venom, something so insignificant, and so unimportant. Maybe the real revalation is not about the church, but rather the views of those who are looking for a scandal where it simply doesn't exist. I for one still cry, "Viva La Difference". Guy's it's your money and your life. It it makes you happy and fills a need in your life enjoys it, and don't take the media too seriously. Lot's of us won't.

And for the rest of you out there, Understanding, might be better than hating. I doubt that are that bad, Maybe one day I might even have a Beer and and a snag with one of them, I wonder if I would notice any difference?

Using “godliness” for financial gain.

>> 14/03/2010 13:42 living a life totally opposite to what he preaches

No, he indirectly preaches the love of money through the way he lives.

He is a faithful follower of the devil because God has warned:
Matthew 6:24 “No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.” (NKJV)
Brian Tamaki and his Destiny franchise business serves mammon, therefore he hates the true God and loves the Devil.

The Devil offered mammon to Jesus Christ on one occaison, and Jesus declined:
Matt 4:8-10 ..... the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. "All this I will give you," he said, "if you will bow down and worship me."
Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.'"
>> ya demonic b lack shit niggers wd an u and fam ily so now fk off

Profanity is the devils method of dealing with disagreement, so maybe you are actually walking in the devil’s ways just like Brian Tamaki
(The blog owner should have deleted that improper rhetoric).

You may share the same destiny if you are not reconciled to God on his terms and taking care to follow his counsel given in the Bible, eg.:
Ephesians 5:2-4 live a life of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.
But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people. Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving.
>> Gus 08/03/2010 08:21 What's the fascination of Destiny to bloggers and the media?

Authentic Christians are not fascinated with Brian and his Destiny, they are disgusted by it because it is a fraud that causes tremendous harm.

People who love the truth are compelled to refute fraud:
Ephesians 5:8-11 For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light (for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness, righteousness, and truth, finding out what is acceptable to the Lord. And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.
Brian Tamaki, his Destiny, and his underlings are a work of darkness for misrepresenting the gospel.

Brian Tamaki has set up a system similar to the Roman Catholic church – a franchised business system that takes advantage of people seeking to follow the Christian way through personal relationship to Jesus Christ.

Cult churches are usually a mixture of truth and falsehood, which makes them difficult to deal with.

Some people may be genuinely helped in Brian’s church through being pointed to Biblical principles to correct their lives, however they will eventually be harmed if they go along with Brian’s improper insistence of worshipping him as the leader through his unbiblical covenantal obedience system, just like the Roman Catholic Pope tries to assert over the entire world.
That bypasses exclusive devotion to Jesus Christ through directly following Bible counsel.

The Bible is the authority of Christianity, not church leaders.

The Bible is authored by God through guiding its contributing writers:
2 Tim 3:16-17 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
The Bible was closed off at Revelation 22:21 (appoximately 2000 years ago) and includes the teachings given through apostles.

Modern “Apostles” or “Prophets” cannot insert or append anything to the Bible.

Anything they say or do should be tested against what is written in the Bible.

Brian Tamaki has incited idolatry and is drawing disciples after himself:
Acts 20:29-30 …. savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them.

1 Tim 6:5 ….. men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.
See This comment in the Washington Post on perversion in churches about money.

Followers of these false christs praise their lord for the hedonistic worldly wealth, possessions, and experiences they command that lord to provide, through misusing Bible verses to deceive themselves.

(lord with a little “l” because it isn’t the LORD of Genesis 1:1, it is “The God of this Age” or “Prince of the power of the air”:
2 Corinthians 4:3-4 But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them. (NKJV)

Ephesians 2:1-2 And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience (NKJV)
Brian Tamaki of Destiny church is glorifying POTPOTA (Prince of the Power of the Air) or GOTA (God of this Age).

See The coiffured idol.

Look for the photo of him with a perspex pulpit.

Perspex pulpits are the latest covet item of preachers who love mammon.

I heard a church pastor in Palmerston North some years ago expressing his desire and affection for such a fashion accessory.

The only use could be to validate his self importance in front of the congregation.

All puffed up strutting about on a stage in front of people like a rock star.

It is a very sad business, when some church leaders get corrupted like that and eventually cause tremendous harm.

However the people that follow them are just as foolish for not reading the Bible carefully to learn how to detect and avoid frauds.
2 Cor 11:13-15 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.