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The Law Commission Report about issues arising from the existence of a dated drug control act makes a major error in equating social harm with dependent users, and provides flawed harm information as a result of the emphasis on legal frameworks. Most drunk and drugged drivers are not dependent, just irresponsible, so tweaking drug classifications and use penalties won't help reduce the major drug death epidemic.

Candor criticizes the issues paper as "a studied exercise in evasion or denial of the major illicit drug harm locus in New Zealand by social cost, which is ofcourse road crashes". Incredibly just one or two dishonest paragraphs out of 400 pages are used to deal with the major drug harm locally. The true social cost of drug crashes has been grossly underestimated by the Governments highly criticized BERL report, however other indicators show it is phenomenal.

Within those paragraphs that the Commission has dedicated to the major drug harm in New Zealand, the Law Commission mischievously gives another lease of life is given to the dangerous old myths propagated by a couple of hippy era trained scientists, who just happen to also be card carrying cannabis legalisers.

It is alleged (based on a poor reference) by the Commission, that cannabis users are slower and more careful drivers than drunks. This is incorrect, irresponsible and grossly distorts the evidence. The risk of actually driving stoned on cannabis is furthermore under-reported at 2-3 x normal, in an apparent misguided effort to diminish the issues import.

All indicators are that cannabis is causal in more teenager road deaths than alcohol in NZ today. It is likely why New Zealand still had the highest recorded 'road deaths per 100,000 population' risk among 15 to 17 year olds, out of OECD member countries in 2007.

These harmful myths the Commission touts are well discredited. A French study, did once find that drivers "under the influence" of cannabis (defined as having greater than > 1 ng/ml blood) only had a relative accident risk of 2.5, but initial studies were flawed because they took in to the sample users who used up to a day ago. They weren't effectively under the influence, hence the risk rating was artificially diluted. Low risks would appear for alcohol if studies included those who drank 24 hours ago.

The US Dept of Transport says severe driving impairment is observed with cannabis at the high doses found after recent use, and in combination with low dose alcohol. Drummer et al (2004) found that at blood concentrations >5 ng/ml in whole blood the risk increased up to 6.6x, similar to the risk rating of 7 at the 0.08 limit (DRUID).

Quality new research from Canada, the United States and even the NZ Drug Foundation does not affirm early studies, which suggested, based on testing in an unrealistic laboratory testing environment, that cannabis drivers are more careful. Overall todays' research shows both alcohol and illicits are associated with a higher frequency of risky driving practices (speeding, passing, following, lane usage, right-of-way, turning and control-signal behaviours) for young drivers.

Cannabis use is the greatest predictor of a novice male driver crashing. It also doubles the given risk a driver might expected at any alcohol level. As more than half of deceased young drunk drivers in NZ have used cannabis, dual intoxication is undoubtedly the one significant easily alterable factor that ramped up their fatality odds. Cannabis is alcohols partner in road homicide, and it can just as well act alone. It's bad, and would be in Class A if the EACD considered road risk.

The Law Commission needs to step forward and issue an advisory that they have misinformed the public, by understating and misrepresenting the cannabis driving risk. It is hard to comprehend why they recommend a law to protect children from endangerment by P labs, yet they're so blas about dozens of kids being killed by cannabis drivers yearly. Debate and submissions ought to be based on a fair representation of the evidence, not one propagating well tended myths, that pander to aspirations of the more irresponsible drug law reformers.

Drug harms are not overblown as the Commission claims, they are just being covered up by the Commission, in a way that those reviewing liquor laws would never consider.

The only place that cannabis drivers are slower, more careful or lower risk than other drivers including drunks, aside from in the Law Commissions books, is when they land in the grave. By publishing such unfounded rubbish the Commission may earn green ribbons from Cheech, Chong and George Soros, but they won't gain the respect of the road safety community.

If the Law Commission does not issue an apology or amend it's issues paper urgently by editing out fairytales, then Candor will take steps to highlight the publications deceitfulness, in the interests of restoring Public Safety.

References and further information

Search of Substances Consumed and Comparison between Drivers Involved under the Influence of Alcohol or Cannabis Marie-Berthe Biecheler; Jean-Franois Peytavin; Traffic Injury Prevention, 1538-957X, Vol 9, Issue 1, 2008

Ramaekers, J.G., Berghaus, G., van Laar, M., & Drummer, O. (2004). Dose related risk of motor vehicle crashes after cannabis use. Drug and Alcohol Dependence 73, 109-119

Clapp JD, Shillington AM, Lange JE & Voas RB (2003) Correlation between modes of drinking and modes of driving as reported by students at two American universities. Acc Anal & Prev,35, 161-166

Being "at fault" in traffic crashes: does alcohol, cannabis, cocaine, or polydrug abuse make a difference? M Chipman et al University Toronto, Injury Prevention. 2003 Dec 9(4)

Preliminary results of Police and ESR control of drugged and drunk drivers study

Asbridge, M., Poulin, C. & Donato, A. (2005). Motor vehicle collision risk and driving under the influence of cannabis: Evidence from adolescents in Atlantic Canada. Accident Analysis & Prevention 37, 1025-1034.

Comments

Who ever wrote this for

Who ever wrote this for CANDOR is trying to have their cake and eat it too. You can't call any crash where cannabis is detected a polydrug event and then discount a study because drivers (who obviously would have tested positive) had injested the drug too long ago.

Also, why is there no discussion on whether prohibition and blanket punishment are actually more effective than regulation and education when it comes to preventing users getting behind the wheel?

Also, i find it somewhat worrying that in their "research" for the article the writer has missed several credible, modern studies including one by the United Kingdom Department of Environment, Transport and the Regions, Road Safety Division which in 2007 concluded: “...that the weight of the evidence indicates that … there is no evidence that consumption of cannabis alone increases the risk of culpability for traffic crash fatalities or injuries for which hospitalization occurs, and may reduce those risks.”

Myth?

I'm generally supporter of CANDOR and an advocate of NORMLs guidelines for responsible use, which call for users to avoid operating any machinery while intoxicated, but this article is sensationalist rubbish.

More pot smoker day dreams.

More pot smoker day dreams. Can't even get their reference name right. That statement was not by the UK Transport Dept at all, nor was it made in 2007. It came from a 1999 study, which is by now well discredited by the cited studies and about 100 more.

The antiquated reference you actually cite (M. Bates and T. Blakely. 1999. “Role of cannabis in motor vehicle crashes.” Epidemiologic Reviews 21: 222-232), actually said in full;

1) There is no evidence that consumption of cannabis alone increases the risk of culpability for traffic crash fatalities or injuries for which hospitalization occurs, and may reduce those risks.
2) The evidence concerning the combined effect of cannabis and alcohol on the risk of traffic fatalities and injuries, relative to the risk of alcohol alone, is unclear.
3) It is not possible to exclude the possibility that the use of cannabis (with or without alcohol) leads to an increased risk of road traffic crashes.”

We now know, after those initial exploratory studies that there IS EVIDENCE pot is a major risk. Please refer to the studies done THIS CENTURY, and in awareness the tech did not exist to do meaningful ones till about 2003.

My apologies, the statement

My apologies, the statement did not come from the UK transport Dept but it is in the study hosted at their site. The meta-analysis (2007) quotes the study you cite (much thanks, btw) as do other reports both pro and con. Therefore as "antiquated" as it may be, I believe it's still somewhat relevant.
Not, perhaps, as relevant as the article in the Canadian Journal of Public Health in 2007 which says: "Investigators found that US drivers with blood alcohol levels of 0.05% – a level well below the legal limit for intoxication – were three times as likely to have engaged in unsafe driving activities prior to a fatal crash as compared to individuals who tested positive for marijuana."

But in deciding what's relevant and what's not I could digress all too easily. The point is that driving while impaired should not be condoned, but also it should not be subject to over sensationalised "reefer madness" which will desensitise the public to the actual risks. This is particularly dangerous in the case of young users who no doubt will have first hand experience of the 'anecdotal' evidence of speed reduction and caution.

I believe CANDOR should be careful not to fall into the trap that had my school teachers telling me cannabis kills brain cells. That pervasive lie contributed to myself and many others ignoring anything anybody in a position of power had to say about drugs.

Now, you say there's "almost a hundred more" studies showing the dangers of drivng under the influence of cannabis. I'm not saying I don't believe you, but may I please have a link to these studies or some where that compiles them? I personally try and stay abrest of science on this issue and haven't seen anywhere near that number(and many I have seen are somewhat conflicted), although i suppose your access to the info is better than my media reliant efforts.

Also, just a rebuke over the study? No reply to my other points?
Particularly interested in a response Re: how CANDOR qualifies a user involved in a crash as under the influence. Is this based solely on the detection of metabolites in their bloodstream?

Your Canadian study is

Your Canadian study is likely again repeating the mistake of comparing apples with oranges. I lack time to check it today, but it is probable it again used drivers with 1ng in blood, which is what the German Supreme Court declared as legally impairing in traffic, so has since been irrationally adopted as a benchmark for studies.

Impairing because minor effects can still be seen at 1ng, but not to such a degree as effects crash risk. So the sample is again contaminated with essentially sober drivers, I'd guess. Why - because this finding does not tally with the bulk of studies and expert consensus that RECENT ppot use is both significantly impairing and significantly raises crash risk - comparable to alcohol intoxication.

Re your other points. The issues are complex and it can take ages to give somneone a good grasp especially by net versus face to face where one can refer to diagrams etc, but will try...

The "anecdotal evidence of speed reduction and caution" is something we hear a lot from groups we educate - provided they loosen up to talk. The perception may apply to some people, but overall it is unimportant as a predictor of safety. The ?Smiley study showing maginal slowing also noted the magnitude of speed drop was not sufficient to give safety benefit.

Any feeling of extra caution is only that, more errors are still made in judgement, less environmental awareness and care etc is shown by increased intersection crashes, run off road crashes, greater injuries sustained from a given crash due to late braking versus sober drivers, and much raised odds of fatal crash involvement. It is a false sense of capability or security in other words - particularly for drivers under 27 per the best research.

The ill impact drops off a lot as with alcohol after that. So that's the big picture, which we can back up with many studies. The behavioural risks (or deficits) are of a slightly different nature to alcohol, but no less deadly all the same. And the risks are the same as alcohol ones eg (slightly) more speed, bad vision but MUCH exacerbated when cannbis/alcohol combine.

See Candor website for a slightly dated starter menu of pot driving studies - from memory 2 webpages deal with it but our latest submissions cite much more recent material - research now focuses on youth risk after recent use, which is the confirmed area of harm.
Many reviews have not caught up with recent studies which are most enlightening as they only lately began to hone in on issues and avoid methodological flaws of earlier studies.

Candor does not agree with "reefer madness" in drug drive education or the equivalent of "shock tactics" in drunk drive education either, but the fact remains that the subject is not light weight. We are dealing with serious trauma, and that must not be sanitised either. A middle path is obviously best. At the same time we are a group with a responsibility to advocate for more action. Advocacy requires strong language and positions, as I'm sure you understand. The wording and presentation style we may chose for advocacy does not necessarily overlap with that chosen during education!

Our release could not deal with the LC's errors and our view re legal status. Too much material. Our views re legal status are in tune with a lot of the LC report - or options therein. Only target harmful behaviours and leave the rest. Common sense.

Your comment here was astute - "Who ever wrote this for CANDOR is trying to have their cake and eat it too. You can't call any crash where cannabis is detected a polydrug event and then discount a study because drivers (who obviously would have tested positive) had injested the drug too long ago."
Yes consideration of recency of use does trim the numbers down but still to concerning numbers, but that level of detail and explanation is far too complicated for media, and general audience to get heads round, just trying to keep it simple. That consideration only really matters if we're trying to estimate offender numbers and effect of confrontative policy. It's of interest to policy writers and those allocating resources or setting harm minimisation targets, not impt info for others.

Thank you for the prompt,

Thank you for the prompt, informative and rational response, i was somewhat worried after the first reply that you were only going to try and wind me up.

As is I'm happy with the reply and although i still don't agree with some of the above article (kiwi cannabis drivers kill dozens of kids a year? and cannabis should be class A?), I do understand the need for "strong language and positions" when advocating. Anti-prohibition groups are often 'guilty' of this too.

"Our views re legal status are in tune with a lot of the LC report - or options therein. Only target harmful behaviours and leave the rest. Common sense."

That's very good to know.

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